tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post2614316441238407997..comments2023-06-01T07:33:09.547-07:00Comments on bokashislope: Backyard porch science: DSF's FAIM-ous Brew?D. S. Foxxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08144985414030666622noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-30726303491397630932014-05-31T08:41:23.718-07:002014-05-31T08:41:23.718-07:00Thank you for this blog entry. I need to go back a...Thank you for this blog entry. I need to go back and start reading your other posts. It's interesting, I am much like you, doing experiments without the science degree, and I have a profound interest in soil amending, closing the loop on waste, and microorganisms for human health and biodiversity.<br /><br />I have been a home fermenter. Sourkraut, yogurt, kefir, wild cultivation of lacto strains, and finally kombucha. I have read about EM-1 and would like to have it but the cost has always held me back.<br /><br />I have just recently begun to notice that the kombucha culture seems to be one of the most active, at least in comparison to the wild lacto that I have cultivated. It is also easy to keep going for the home novice. I like your idea of using vermicompost cultivated from your EM-1 bokashi. It would seem to make perfect sense. I wonder if the worms themselves cary the PNSB as part of their microbiome outside of coming from an EM-1 bokashi bucket? It would seem likely.<br /><br />I have also been experimenting with bokashi, or perhaps I would just call it kitchen scrapes fermentation. My process is to put a couple of inches of soil pep at the bottom of a five gallon bucket. Add some table sugar and spray my homemade wild lacto or now kombucha, add scraps, repeat. I let it ferment for about 3 weeks with weight on top then add to an outside static aerobic compost bin.<br /><br />I know this is an older thread and I'm not sure if it is OK to ask a couple of questions. Anyway, I will try.<br />1) I have never had true bokashi, don't know what the final product should look or smell like. After 3 weeks my buckets smell citrusy, slightly vinegary, slightly sweet, fairly strong smell, but not putrid or unpleasant. I don't use a spigot to remove excess liquid. Does that sound about right?<br />2)You mentioned something in your post that made me think that you are vermicomposting the finished bokashi. Does that work? I thought worms were sensitive to higher acid levels. I would like to try vermicomposting and would rather integrate into the bokashi setup if it would work.<br /><br />It's amazing to me that there are other people doing the same kind of stuff I do. There is no one around me, I feel like a mad scientist quietly hammering away. It would be nice if we could crack the code and make this stuff accessible to more people. Some kind of crowd-think going on. Thank you for your work, I will be busy reading whatever else you have posted. Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12170003100157695085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-49338508456618552572011-03-24T13:40:59.311-07:002011-03-24T13:40:59.311-07:00thanks for your help D!
lots to think about - lot...thanks for your help D!<br /><br />lots to think about - lots to read <br /><br />cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-32043442115169948402011-03-23T14:21:39.603-07:002011-03-23T14:21:39.603-07:00When I've put dried leaves in the bottom of bu...When I've put dried leaves in the bottom of buckets, it's usually for absorbency--sometimes in a nested bucket's reservoir, to produce a nutritive solid without having to wait through a full fermentation and curing; sometimes instead of a reservoir, in an outdoor fermentation; and very often as a dry carbon after fermentation, as equal volumes of dried leaves and cured bokashi compost quickly and thoroughly in my usual set-ups.<br /><br />But none of those requires the specific PNSB that do so well as odor-eaters, so...no. Which is not the same as saying it wouldn't it work. Assuming your leaves have been de-bugged, or your set-up tolerates such things.<br /><br />And before you ask, yes, I have tried dried leaves as a carrier for a lactobacillus inoculant; it didn't work well enough to bother refining the technique, but neither did it fail. Someone with a mulching mower and several trash cans to spare might manage it.<br /><br />DSFD. S. Foxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144985414030666622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-81569555528972936182011-03-23T11:58:11.630-07:002011-03-23T11:58:11.630-07:00sometimes i feel people are a bit to sophisticated...sometimes i feel people are a bit to sophisticated for their own good<br /><br />your link for the Enrichment and Isolation of Purple Non-Sulfur Photosynthetic Bacteria is something i would have loved to study in high school or college for that matter<br /><br />you mention keeping leaves in the bottom of a bakashi bucket somewhere iirc - this is to encourage purple rhodos?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-47501311133774785782011-03-22T06:06:48.646-07:002011-03-22T06:06:48.646-07:00Anon or not, welcome back!
Winogradsky columns ...Anon or not, welcome back! <br /><br />Winogradsky columns are, I'm told, "too unsophisticated" for today's high school students. Sigh. maybe if they all called it by your name, swamp in a jar, it'd appeal to the younger kids? -G-<br /><br />Don't worry at all about dates--if it's on here, it's fair game. And if my experiences or opinions have changed...well, now, there'd be a lovely topic for a new post.<br /><br />DSFD. S. Foxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144985414030666622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-66411040044521945082011-03-21T21:31:49.737-07:002011-03-21T21:31:49.737-07:00forgive my reading comprehension - a lot of this i...forgive my reading comprehension - a lot of this is over my head<br /><br />i missed the date of this post and a few other little things went right over my head the first time<br /><br />i'll go back to being anonymous, at least for time beingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5500768302850982119.post-73272935822360010922011-03-21T21:07:30.113-07:002011-03-21T21:07:30.113-07:00seems i've found your blog again - from sauerk...seems i've found your blog again - from sauerkraut crocks to sourdough<br /><br />i noticed in a post of yours May 25, 2010, 10:05:12 AM from http://www.permies.com<br /><br />you mention a high school science project? Winogradsky column? i'm just new to this bokashi thing but my brain is continually trying to figure things - i feel cheated out of not getting to make 'swamp in a jar' and will be growing one this summer<br /><br />didn't you mention something about a blog post? forgive me if i missed it - i only stopped here to blab a bit about whey and sourdough starter and swamp in a jar <br /><br />:)<br /><br />i'll snoop around a bi tmore and see if i can find that post about collecting purple rhodos and leaf litter - sounds a lot easier than trying to harvest it from a jar...though that's going to stop me from trying<br /><br />;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com